>> madam leader, $600 billion is where the president has been on entitlement cuts. that's something he hasn't moved on. >> six-hundred billion dollars? >> six-hundred billion dollars, i think, is the number that they've put out. is there any upward movement, potential for upward movement in that? >> four-hundred billion dollars is what i had heard, but >> well, $400 or $600, is there any room to go further? >> i think that, that should be left until next year when you look at what this is. i mean, if you are collecting trophies and you want a scalp in order to if you want the scalp of seniors before you will touch one hair on the head of the wealthiest people in our country, what's the discussion about? are we serious about what we do to have the pillars of our society, in terms of economic security for our seniors and their families, protected? then that's a longer conversation about where to go. i have said over and over, if you want to talk about social security, having it on the table, it's on its own table. any savings from social security that can be created s